For a while now I have been frustrated by the fact that I seemed entirely unable to breath life into my Space Marines. I could get them to be in proportion, but I just couldn't seem to get the right sense of movement and depth. I came to the realization the other day that the reason for this was that I was drawing just the armor, and so it was as though I was drawing objects and not people. So I decided to work out the proportions of my marines out of armor so that when I draw them from now on I can use a flesh-up process to get movement and life into them.
Again, the proportions of my marines are inspired by the work of several GW artists, most notably Kevin Koplinsky, and not the actual models (The models proportions are off anyways, with the heads and hands being about 1.75 times larger than they should be so that you can get more detail on them at a 1:60 scale.). In case anyone was wondering a 6' tall person comes up to where the Ribcage meets the top of the Abdomen (This is based off of the Space Marine scultures you see sometimes, we have one at the local store back home. I am 6'1" and that is where I come up to on it.). Yep, Space Marines are fricken huge, deal with it.
Oh, and the lack of genitalial is simply for decency. Space Marines are NOT eunichs!
Maybe it's the angle he's standing on, but it looks like his thighs rub together when he walks. Which would be problematic, since the power-codpiece (hehe) forces a noticeable gap between marine's thigh armour pieces.
Neat pic tho. Not many artists (or writers, for that matter) seem to consider just how huge marines are and what affects it would have (not fitting through most human-scale doors, for a start).
TehDarkPredator, they do... absolutely nothing. If you're thinking what I think you're, then no. When a man gets turned into a Space Marine he becomes... unable to have sex or have children (sorry I don't remember the shorter word for this.).
He becomes Infertile. Its because his genetic code becomes altered and made uncompatible with human DNA, so it would be like sex between a horse and a cow, on the face of things they are similar animals but it doesn't actually work or happen. Space Marines are capable of recognizing beauty in females, but from an intellectual perspective, and they aren't really able to feel love although they can feel friendship. A lot of their total lack to sexual desire comes from the sort of hormornal shock they undergo in the recruitment process, as growth hormones tend to decrease sexual desire to the point of making it a mute point.
All that being said they have all of the right equipment for sex, indeed everything would be proportional to the rest of them so their penis would be about the size of my forearm and theyed have balls the size of grapefruits, so they could have sex if they wanted to (Think of the Emperor's Children) but they really just don't have any desire for it naturally. And besides, a penis that size would kill a woman, the average vagina is only around 10-11 inches long, so given that space marines would be around 2 feet or so in legnth it would tear her apart and cause her to bleed to death, thus I doubt that they'd enjoy it much unless they were sickos like the Emperor's Children.
Oddly, I had heard a theory a long while ago that the 2 primarchs struck from Imperial record were female and that the emperor had intended to breed them, but the Horus Rising book dealt with that and explained that they had died at birth for reasons you'll have to read the book to learn.
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"All that being said they have all of the right equipment for sex, indeed everything would be proportional to the rest of them so their penis would be about the size of my forearm and theyed have balls the size of grapefruits, so they could have sex if they wanted to (Think of the Emperor's Children) but they really just don't have any desire for it naturally. And besides, a penis that size would kill a woman, the average vagina is only around 10-11 inches long, so given that space marines would be around 2 feet or so in legnth it would tear her apart and cause her to bleed to death, thus I doubt that they'd enjoy it much unless they were sickos like the Emperor's Children."
... That part creeped the living crap out of me....
yeah, well its true. Oh, and new bit of information, apparently artificial growth hormones tend to result in a decrease in sex drive so that might have something to do with it. If you read the horus heresy series books it has a bunch of stuff about how Marines view women, its like their are completely different species (pretty true actually).
Oh, and in hind sight they would actualy have a size range between 1 and 2 feet long if things are proportional and they still have the normal amount of difference that men have.
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"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
Robert Heinlein
OK . . . . This talk about the size of the Space Marine's. . . dong is creeping me out now.. BAAAAD PICTURES IN ME HEAD!
Well anyways I think the Space Marines are able to feel love but it's rare. I think Ragnar Blackmane fell in love with a female Inquisitor or something, but if I remember correct a Great Unclean one later killed that Inquisitor.
In what book? Although they can feel friendship for women just like other humans, I really don't think that they are capable of romantic love, just not in them.
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Must purge mind from such rancid visions...
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Neat pic tho. Not many artists (or writers, for that matter) seem to consider just how huge marines are and what affects it would have (not fitting through most human-scale doors, for a start).
All that being said they have all of the right equipment for sex, indeed everything would be proportional to the rest of them so their penis would be about the size of my forearm and theyed have balls the size of grapefruits, so they could have sex if they wanted to (Think of the Emperor's Children) but they really just don't have any desire for it naturally. And besides, a penis that size would kill a woman, the average vagina is only around 10-11 inches long, so given that space marines would be around 2 feet or so in legnth it would tear her apart and cause her to bleed to death, thus I doubt that they'd enjoy it much unless they were sickos like the Emperor's Children.
Oddly, I had heard a theory a long while ago that the 2 primarchs struck from Imperial record were female and that the emperor had intended to breed them, but the Horus Rising book dealt with that and explained that they had died at birth for reasons you'll have to read the book to learn.
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"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
Robert Heinlein
... That part creeped the living crap out of me....
Oh, and in hind sight they would actualy have a size range between 1 and 2 feet long if things are proportional and they still have the normal amount of difference that men have.
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"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
Robert Heinlein
Well anyways I think the Space Marines are able to feel love but it's rare. I think Ragnar Blackmane fell in love with a female Inquisitor or something, but if I remember correct a Great Unclean one later killed that Inquisitor.
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"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
Robert Heinlein
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